tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post9266899212460218..comments2024-03-25T15:16:59.631-04:00Comments on The Green Bough: Just One of The (Many) Things I Don't KnowOriahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13153842083329682011noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-88369973280953830522012-03-08T12:23:48.530-05:002012-03-08T12:23:48.530-05:00Ruby, I think I understand what you are saying- an...Ruby, I think I understand what you are saying- and I really get how the believe in after-life possibilities can make current challenges more bearable. And yes, perhaps here is there and there is here :-)Oriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13153842083329682011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-19993542415884522172012-03-08T09:57:17.531-05:002012-03-08T09:57:17.531-05:00Dear Oriah
I hadn't taken your belief on as mi...Dear Oriah<br />I hadn't taken your belief on as mine, nor thought either yours or mine more 'correct'. I imagined (tried on) believing your belief and found that that brought pain that made me feel a sense of hope that it isn't like that because then now is everything (instead of now is everything and this pain will cease upon death and the return to pure, loving spiritual realm) and if this is everything, then it is too depressing, a joke too cruel.<br /><br />And the fact that considering the possibility brings such emotion indicates that what you believe is not really so far from what I believe. Sorry, I can't put it into words. It feels like the plane of infinity where here is there and there is here, even though they appear to be in different places. Don't know if that makes any sense whatsoever!!!!<br />Blessings<br />RubyRuby Starhearthttp://www.loving-transformation.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-46407013010180299592012-02-23T11:55:02.825-05:002012-02-23T11:55:02.825-05:00As always, Oriah, I'm 100% in tune with what y...As always, Oriah, I'm 100% in tune with what you say. Thank you again for your wisdom, truth, honesty. Yes, it's a relief, isn't it, to say 'I don't know. This is only a belief/opinion/projection...' Please don't take time out to reply. I just wanted to acknowledge your words with gratitude and a sense of companionship. Roselle xrosellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00971482422276765335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-24084737255938240572012-02-23T08:24:32.825-05:002012-02-23T08:24:32.825-05:00LOL- Sabine, I've had a life-time membership i...LOL- Sabine, I've had a life-time membership in this club for many years :-) OriahOriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13153842083329682011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-24381361285823133442012-02-23T02:43:09.146-05:002012-02-23T02:43:09.146-05:00I think it's much better and much more honest ...I think it's much better and much more honest to say "I don't know" than to pretend that we have eaten wisdom with the golden spoon. Because in truth we simply CAN'T know for sure what happens when we die as we are still here (even if I have read tons of books about near-death experiences etc). I feel the older I get the more relaxed I get with saying "I don't know, so what?" Do I have to know everything? And then what? What if I knew everything? What if I had this golden wisdom spoon? I guess I would be bored to tears with myself because then I would not discover anything new. And: I guess I have read trillions of books from all kinds of people who said they knew it all. What I read was in truth the opinions of all kinds of people but does that mean it's true? Not necessarily, it was THEIR opinion, that's all. But I digress LOL<br />Welcome to the club, Oriah, of "I-don't-know-and-I'm-fine-with-its" :-) God, thank you, it feels soooo good to NOT know.<br />xox SabineSabinehttp://www.walking-with-angels.denoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-83518687580708857502012-02-22T18:28:39.004-05:002012-02-22T18:28:39.004-05:00Well said! Hostility, animosity and hatred must g...Well said! Hostility, animosity and hatred must give way to the superior way of love, compassion, and humility.<br /><br />Cause and effect; What goes around comes around or<br />Karma. However one chooses to name it. Results don't lie. <br /><br />Thank you for your perspective. DeannaDeanna Eaglesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-64103541090536456922012-02-22T17:46:05.950-05:002012-02-22T17:46:05.950-05:00When I was younger I would not use terms I didn...When I was younger I would not use terms I didn't "agree with" or "understand." Now, like you, I am fine with using the terms that bring comfort to the person who appears closer to that final reality of this human go-'round. I guess age helps us realize that love is more important than agreement and being with someone means being with how they are right now. :-)Oriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13153842083329682011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-48798793066415800672012-02-22T16:38:45.815-05:002012-02-22T16:38:45.815-05:00Wow - exquisitely and lovingly put - purring right...Wow - exquisitely and lovingly put - purring right along here... Such a wonderful heart opener for me - that no matter what my ideas, beliefs, stories and assumptions are about *anything*, that's all they are - and they fall away as well... Kind of keeps everything in perspective - keeps me open to more discoveries and more heart openings along the way...<br /><br />With Gratitude - ChristineMystic Meanderinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09746429719911446865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-56408389891584974382012-02-22T15:49:56.159-05:002012-02-22T15:49:56.159-05:00I also say "I don't know". There are...I also say "I don't know". There are things that feels more preferable, but why I prefer something is much due to experiences in my life, my personality etc, so I think I have to leave the question open, unanswered. I have thought a lot about death though, because for such a large part of my life I have found life (almost) unbearable, can I even live and if I would end my life (I never thought of it as an easy way out, but...long story, say no more of that, not the issue here) what happens? In moments, when death is really like an option, for all sorts of reasons I so much want death to be and to give me a second chance. Also I want death to give me the possibility to help people "left" on earth. Also, when we consider that it is possible in life to choose death (rather: not to live here), what does that say about death? I don't know, but it says something.<br />As I see it the moment of death is like a gate, what is beyond I don't know. But when I for instance talk about my father, who died some years ago as an old and very christian man, I find it natural to say that he is now with God, in heaven, that he has come "home". I am not a christian, don't "have" that belief, but I choose to use words about after death that is "in line" with a persons belief in life (it's like respecting their belief).<br />Thanks for writing about this, I find your words soft, compassionate actually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-87462285519541301442012-02-22T12:05:30.562-05:002012-02-22T12:05:30.562-05:00Dear Ruby, please do not take my not-knowing as so...Dear Ruby, please do not take my not-knowing as some kind of "higher" or "more developed" state than belief in a particular outcome. Perhaps one day I will feel a strong sense of clarity about a particular belief- or not. This not knowing is the truth for me right now. I think the hardest part is to think of not continuing with some sense of me-ness, but I really mean it when I say that if that is what happens my sense is it will truly be okay- will not be painful. But then again, I am guessing :-) The real question is - what helps you be more compassionate and present now. Right now not knowing does this for me- and your beliefs may well do that for you. Blessings, OriahOriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13153842083329682011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-6801209755049468202012-02-22T10:53:18.808-05:002012-02-22T10:53:18.808-05:00Thanks for a beautiful post, written from your usu...Thanks for a beautiful post, written from your usual place of speaking it as it is.<br /><br />For myself, I feel the need to believe in existence beyond death (I imagine a formless afterlife for myself, with some element of self continuing) because this lifetime is so tough and painful that I want to feel that it is part of a bigger journey. To consider that this is the only life would be too tragic and brings me to tears. My understanding that this is one step enables me to keep going and to remain hopeful. <br /><br />Right now I trust in Grandmother Earth to hold me and sustain me, whatever happens. Perhaps I need to find a deeper trust in Great Spirit in order for the possibility of a nothingness beyond death to feel fine.Ruby Starheart - Loving Transformationhttp://www.loving-transformation.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3524364334037666877.post-27737985937652098222012-02-22T08:01:47.959-05:002012-02-22T08:01:47.959-05:00Brilliant and comforting, Oriah.Brilliant and comforting, Oriah.Amynoreply@blogger.com